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Day 30 Challenge (finale): Something youd like to share with your followers or friends.

I'm tired of hiding behind masks. I'm tired of being in fear all the time.

Nobody should be discriminated or judged because of their sexuality. Nobody should be judged at all in the first place. If one should be judged, it would be the deeds of their actions, the work and support they contribute to society and the legacy they leave behind for future generations that could benefit from it.

So judge me as an artist, on my talent, on my profession, and the work I do. Not because of my sexuality.

Thank you, to all my friends, followers, fans, people who love my work and what I do. You are my reason to continue what Im doing till now. Love you all and please love one another.

Daryl Toh Liem Zhan
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MrAnonArtist Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I want this shirt so badly. Nice work, man!
bluesag Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
ashnjohncomics Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013
A long time ago, you did a few commissions for me. My story had a gay couple in it and I remember you telling me that you didn't mind drawing them together, but that you were not comfortable drawing them, um... being a couple together. I was so bummed out that you felt that way, but I didn't say anything and I didn't bring it up again. I have to say, seeing this... there are no words for how happy I am for you. I didn't know then and I'm sure you don't remember me now, but I want you to know that I am proud of you for overcoming your fear and accepting yourself. :heart: ~Ash
Nox-ious Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
To be honest, having a gay friend is a lot of fun ^      u ^)b
MasterJ18 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Student Artist
I love your work and what you do, and this right here is inspiration at one of its best thank you
FadedNobody Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
my emotions exploded ... gimmie a minute QuQ...
Emotocat Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013
I love your work, I think you're a great artist. I thought that before I knew you were gay and I feel exactly the same now. So yeah, keep being awesome.
hyena-spit Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That was amazingly touching.
Besides, gay people are always awesome ^.^ And so is your art!
tommymarcus Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013
its your decision of who you want to be in the life, no matter the sexuality thats just superficial.
Polo0-5 Featured By Owner May 14, 2013
your artwork is amazing! i always look forward to seeing more!
CoyNino Featured By Owner May 2, 2013  Student Filmographer
:happycry: So : I love your art, what you say and you. :heart:
Continue t'es sur la bonne voie mec ! ;)
kuabci Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013  Professional Filmographer
P.S. By the way, personal experiences DO count and matter, where else do you think all those studies and firsthand experiences come from? Again, I'm not trying to control anyone, but quite the opposite, empower them, though I'm pretty sure you WOULD control people (me, for one) if you could. I think you (and countless others) would do well to learn a little something about personal responsibility and accountability, and the difference between a conscious and unconscious choice. And for the record, I am actually a really great person (regardless of your insistence otherwise about another human being you have never met and know almost nothing about).
kuabci Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I am absolutely not self-hating, and I will love my children no matter what, regardless of the choices they make in their lives. They will be very happy, I guarantee it. I'm sorry that you're obviously not.

Ex-gays (who are not bisexuals) exist too. Accept it.

Well, this has been fun or interesting or something, but I'm pretty sure you're a psychopath, or at least toxic at best, so I must bid you farewell. Best of luck to you.
MSPaintCannon Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013
Congratulations, you are bisexual. All of these "ex-gays" who claim they were somehow cured seem to forget that bisexuality exists.

And generally citing your own personal experience as a source isn't going to convince anyone of anything.

So here.

Gays exist. Ex-ex-gays exist. We are tired of being silenced. We are here, we exist. Deal with it.

And yes, you did come here to pick a fight, stop backpedaling. You posted a comment to act like a smarmy passive aggressive douche towards the artist, and now act surprised when people call you out on it.

"("Fecal matter"! Great job! You actually used a synonym. Still not very effective, but at least marginally more eloquent.)"

Ah yes, the realm of argumentation in which the person has no argument so must focus on something totally irrelevant, like vocabulary or grammar, to pretend like they have a point.

Let me make something clear to you. When you say that homosexuality is a choice, you are telling many people that the shit they had to endure growing up was all their fault, because they chose to be gay. This is what you are saying when you spout that nonsense, and it also gives bullies even MORE motivation to hurt them, or "fix" them, since now they have it on "good authority" that being gay is a choice, so its okay to physically and emotionally torture them. You are encouraging this type of behavior, whether you believe it or not. Just because you are a self-hating uncle tom doesn't mean you have the right to make others lives a fucking hell.

This is why you are a treating people horribly, this is why you are a bad person.
And it is also why you shouldn't expend any type of respect, when you yourself are being a disrespectful little putz.

And yes, you are trying to control people. You are trying to control their every thought, every feeling they have and every choice they make. You are persecuting other people for thought crime.

The fact that you are such a uncle tom and believe so strongly that gays can be "fixed" worries me about the future of your children should they ever they are homosexual. I worry of what you might do to them. Throw them out on the street? Beat them? Send them to torture camps disguised as "conversion centers", to shocked, beaten, yelled at and told that they are subhuman abominations? Subject them to peer pressure and cultist brainwashing tactics? I can't help but feel your children are not going to have a happy future ahead of them with a father like you.

kuabci Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Professional Filmographer
So angry, so hateful, so ignorant. So sad. Open your eyes, look at the world around you, look in a mirror, listen to yourself. And for heaven's sake, quit saying you hope people commit suicide. I know people who have killed themselves, I DO know the gravity of what I'm saying. Of course a bully is in the wrong (when did I EVER indicate otherwise?? Are you even paying attention?), but in the end, the bully did not physically force the person to kill themselves. The bully did not (in almost all cases at least) hold the victim's gun in the victim's hand to the victim's head and use the victim's finger to pull the victim's trigger. That's all I'm saying. Bullying is going to happen. People need to be taught that they can control how they think and feel and react, or else the bully wins, and bullies shouldn't win. There are always resources and options. (How can a person possibly misunderstand this? I should have known you would deviate in this direction if I dared mention this concept... *sigh*) Oh yes, I'm totally turning the victim into a villain, therefore turning my younger self into the villain. I'm totally sympathizing with the bully, totally sympathizing with the people who made junior high and high school a living hell for me and many of my best friends. Completely. You have me SO figured out.

I'm not trying to control ANYONE. What I'm trying to do is help other people realize THEY, and NO ONE else, are in control of THEMSELVES. Please please PLEASE try to keep up. I think I've said that five times. I haven't treated anyone horribly. You, on the other hand...

("Fecal matter"! Great job! You actually used a synonym. Still not very effective, but at least marginally more eloquent.)

I'm not here to pick a fight, I'm here to show another completely valid point of view and, originally, refute an obviously false statement. Thanks for being true to your camp's form and completely disallowing it while thoroughly demanding I allow yours. You're doing your position a great (dis)service. But no, I haven't "learned to keep [my] mouth shut," in fact, if anything, your amusing (predictable) diatribes have encouraged me to keep speaking out. Thanks for your support! But it helps if the people I'm talking to are actually coherent and able to grasp what they're reading/hearing.

You are a bigot. Get a clue, my friend.

P.S. You want me to substantiate my claims? Get ready: I used to be gay. I lived that life for years and (at the risk of getting too graphic) had various personal encounters with other men. I realized that's not who I am or wanted to be. I changed my heart and mind and life (etc. etc.) completely. I am now an absolutely happy husband and father and adore my family more than my own life itself (and infinitely more than myself). It has happened, therefore it is possible. I'm not the only person who has done this. There are more of us than you can imagine, and we are tired of being silenced. We exist. To use a relevant turn of phrase, deal with it.
MSPaintCannon Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013

Saying "Your analogy is puerile" doesn't address ANYTHING I said. Its the equivalent of shoving your fingers in your ears.

And yes, I do hope you lose someone to suicide so you can understand the fucking gravity of what you are saying and how it affects people. Besides, I'm sure if one did kill themselves you would just call them cowardly scum and piss on their graves, since you are SOOOO superior, SOOO much better than them.

I hope you realize that when you say that a person who has been bullied and wants to kill themselves are weak, and that ITS ALL THEIR FAULT for feeling that way, you are literally absolving the bully of responsibility. The bully gets no punishment, because according your fucked up logic when someone feels depressed or suicidal, its ALWAYS their fault. So bullies should never be punished when someone kills themselves as result of their bullying, so they get off free, when the person would NEVER have killed themselves if the bully had just left them the fuck alone. You are sympathizing with the criminal and turning the victim into a villain. You are scum.

You are the bigoted one, telling gays they deserve to be bullied, deserve to be thrown out on the streets by the people who are supposed to love them, that they deserve to be persecuted because its a "choice" to be attracted to the same sex, that they deserve to be killed for something they did not choose. Pot calling the kettle black, typical of a religious person to attack a person and then cry "BIGOT" when the person retaliates.

And for the record, YOU ARE TRYING TO CONTROL HOW OTHER PEOPLE THINK AND FEEL. You are telling them that their sexuality is a choice, and that they should change it.

And the moment you realize that God does not exist, you will learn that you have been talking horribly about people you do not understand for no reason at all. I treat you horribly because you treat others horribly, in the name of your God.

Treating people horribly because skyfairy said so is still treating people like shit, no matter what your stupid beliefs happen to be.

And you have the narcissistic audacity to comment on this artists work, where he had the stones to come out as gay knowing he would face criticism for doing so, and tell him he chose this, and then in a sickeningly smug manner tell him that if you came out as an ex-gay you would be hated. Its ALLLLL about you, isn't it, Mr.Narcissist? You post a comment and mouth off about gays and for some reason act like you are STUNNED that you would get insulted. You come here and talk shit about gays and expect to be treated with reverence and kindness? Fuck you, you narcissistic bag of fecal matter. It takes a significant amount of courage to come out as gay nowadays, because being gay is still stigmatized, believe it or not. And if you think its not, you are living in the conservative echo-chamber. Gays are still disowned by their parents, beaten by their parents, bullied at school and murdered in the street just for the horrible act of being gay. Stop acting like it isn't a problem anymore, because it is.

You obviously posted here to piss people off and pick a fight, well you got what you asked for. Maybe next time learn to keep your bigoted mouth shut and respect other people, instead of trying to insert your horseshit into everything that isn't like you.
kuabci Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Professional Filmographer
And THIS is a repeat of YOUR previous comment. Without going into too many personal details, like I said, I HAVE SEEN THIS ISSUE FROM BOTH SIDES. (I don't mean to shout, but you don't seem to have heard me the first time.) I DO know what it's like to be confused and unaccepted and different and yes, even verging on suicidal, and etc. etc. etc., but I don't blame that on anyone else, I took control of my life and didn't allow other people to define me or my life. You don't seem to understand the human mind or the power of persuasion or the concept of classical conditioning. And you're right, there's no reason for people to walk around feeling that way about themselves, unless they allow other people to control how they think and feel. The idea of entitlement and victim mentality is so rampant today it's scary.

(And by the way, your analogy is as puerile as the rest of your comments. I know you tried to dumb it down for my "puny" brain, but really, it was dumbed down from its inception.)

It's truly sad that some people actually believe they have absolutely no control over their bodies or minds. THAT'S what's wrong with this generation, not me.

It's amazing to me a person can feel so much hatred and blind hypocrisy as you do. (You do realize you just said you hope someone kills themselves, don't you? That's something I personally would NEVER say or hope. And by the way, why is it okay to openly hope some people commit suicide, but then for other people, it's unheard of? See what I mean about hypocrisy? Just one example. If someone I know does commit suicide, I'm going to hold you personally responsible, since after all, you're an OUTSIDE SOURCE and you've bullied them into it. It's all your fault!!!) You're not even very creative or eloquent about it. Open a dictionary, for goodness' sake.

And I'm the sociopath?... My colleagues in the psychology department would tend to disagree.

The moment you START believing that there might actually be a power higher and greater than yourself is the moment YOU might realize the horrible way YOU treat other people. Look in a mirror, my friend. You are angry and probably miserable, but that's no excuse to be so incredibly hateful and bigoted and vulgar.
MSPaintCannon Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
This is pretty much a repeat of your previous comment. SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIMS.

Go out and suck a cock already. Love it, savor it, enjoy it. If you cannot do that, than you have to concede the fact that it is not a choice.

You cannot control what you like. Humans want what they want, its instinctual. The laughter analogy still holds up, because you dismissed it without even considering it. I'll use another analogy so your puny mormon brain can understand.

You know how guys get boners when they see an attractive woman? They have no control over that. It is involuntary, unless you are going to seriously claim that people have magical powers to control what gets them going.

It is the same thing with gay people. When they see someone attractive and of of the same gender, they get turned the fuck on whether they want to or not.

And for the record, your comments on suicide are pretty fucking disgusting and pretty much prove that you are a sociopath. Gays who feel suicidal because of bullying are feeling suicidal because of an OUTSIDE SOURCE.

If it wasn't for walking shitbags like you making them feel like subhuman abominations, they wouldn't be fucking suicidal, they would NO REASON to feel that way. So no, it is not entirely on the fault of the person who killed themselves, you fucking unrepentant piece of shit.

I hope someone close to you kills themselves because of something YOU say or do, maybe you would understand. I've had to deal with suicide in my family before, so fuck off before you accuse me of "not getting it."

Fuck you. You are shitstain on the inside of a toilet, proof that religion is the cancer killing society and causing a myriad of deaths. You perpetuate human suffering by believing the shit you believe.

The moment you stop believing in the sky fairy is the moment you realize what a piece of shit you have been to other people.
kuabci Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Also, I did not argue against myself. I made a perfectly valid argument against a weaksauce one of yours. Just because you didn't understand my point doesn't mean I didn't make it. You're funny.
kuabci Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Professional Filmographer
You are hilarious! As if you know the first thing about me. Suffice it to say that I have seen this issue personally (very personally) from both sides, and I know firsthand that change from one sexual preference to another is completely possible, happens every day, and as such, said sexual preference is not genetic or inborn. Time for you to do a little more research and open your mind a little. I don't hate anyone, and I have a lot of dear friends who consider themselves gay, or did (or didn't) at one time. I love how, even after your incredibly bigoted and hateful tirade, I'm the one who is accused of being aggressive and destroying the world. Like I said, hilarious!

As for the rest, in general, TL:DR. It's hard to tell based one limited interaction concerning one specific topic, but as far as I can see, quite frankly, you're actually a pretty huge jerk. Good luck with that. Apparently it's not inborn, so I'm sure you can overcome it.

P.S. If anyone commits suicide (gosh, this is opening a whole other can of worms), for whatever reason, no one is truly to blame except the person who commits it. We shouldn't give complete control over our own actions to other people (this coming from someone who was bullied for my formative decades). Suicide is tragic (and usually the result of much more serious psychological problems than hazing or teasing), but in the end it's an act committed by a person, not by those around them.

P.P.S. Laughter =/= human sexuality. Just saying.
MSPaintCannon Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
Oh holy fuck, you're a mormon. No wonder you are such a smarmy little douchebag.

You pretty much took the time to come onto this artists picture to post a troll comment telling him he chose to be gay. How do you know anybody chooses to be gay? Substantiate your claims. Go out and suck a huge cock, and make yourself enjoy it. If you can't make yourself enjoy it, congratulations, you just proved homosexuality is not a choice.

Those people who "change" can be classified as bisexuals. Yeah, that exists, big surprise. Still attracted to the same gender, but can pretend to be straight since they are into both.

"and you don't need to make a choice to feel and do what every instinct in humanity drives you to feel and do."

And there you go. You just argued against yourself. Homosexual attraction is instinctual, innate. You cannot control what you you like, what you are attracted to.

For example, you cannot control what you find funny. True laughter is involuntary, uncontrollable. Which is why when you watch a comedy film with a friend, the friend will NOT ask "Did you CHOOSE to laugh at the movie? Did you CHOOSE to find the movie funny?"

The natural question to ask is "Did you find the movie funny? Did you laugh?" Because we recognize that we have no control over these things, even though we like to think that we do.

It is pretty clear with your passive aggressive comments that you hate gays, I hope you don't have any children, for if they end up coming out as homosexual I would be frightened at what lengths you would go to in an attempt to "fix" them. You would probably resort to violent methods to "beat the gay" out of them or send them to those thinly veiled torture camps called "conversion centers" to be subjected to shock therapy, and to be told everyday that they are abominations that have no right to exist. Or maybe you would just throw them out on the street.

Quite frankly, fuck you. You are the reason there are so many LGBT suicides, why there are so many homeless LGBT youth on the streets. Fuck off with your regressive, violent and genocidal ideas. You are destroying lives. You are destroying the fucking world.
free-to-be-Gee Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love the art and the statement you included above. :dalove:
idamn Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I see many have already said what I wish to tell you, but I guess a good thing can never be said too many times, right?
I just want to say that I'm happy for you and proud of you for setting an example for all of those out there who aren't as brave as you are. Hiding behind a mask can be very tiring, as well as difficult and could even distance you from the rest of the world. I hope that you will feel much better after this, and that you know that you have a whole bunch of people out there cheering for you and wishing you the best, both in your life and as an artist. Go you! :glomp:
kuabci Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Professional Filmographer
First of all, that's why that was only ONE of my points, though it still holds. There once was a theory the world was flat, but age sure seemed to rule out its (not it's) viability.

Second, that is partly true, but they share genetic characteristics, and most of the differences in identical twins as they grow are due to environmental factors. There would still be a MUCH higher correlation if sexuality were genetic.

Third, just because something includes citations doesn't mean it's infallible as a source. For all we know, the sources cited are from biased and unbalanced articles or studies (especially as regards this topic. In any case, I did qualify my statement by saying Wikipedia in and of itself is not a valid source, which any professional researcher or teacher will corroborate. Ignorance or laziness is not an excuse or a defense for bad or weak research practices.

Fourth, that's a tired straw man argument, especially because these days it's becoming increasingly more acceptable and even popular to follow an alternative sexuality, or at least to experiment (some people even ostracize you if you DON'T experiment). Sometimes it's just easier to accept what other people believe about you and keep cramming in your face than to fight it and be who you really are. If you hear something enough times, you start to believe it, that's just basic human psychology. As for "bigotry and misinformation," beware of using terms like those, as they are extremely easily turned around. I could just as easily say you're providing those very things. It's not always a conscious choice (not always, but it's not inborn. Furthermore, if people do in fact have NO control over their sexual orientation, why do people change (in either direction, though one direction seems to be thoroughly disallowed) every single day?

Fifth, another straw man argument, and all I will say is don't jump to conclusions about people you've never met. You don't know anything about the history of my sexual "orientation", and frankly, it's none of your business. However, heterosexuality is in every way, biologically, anatomically, evolutionarily, natural. It's how every species has been propagated since the beginning of time, and you don't need to make a choice to feel and do what every instinct in humanity drives you to feel and do. Surprise! I did have an answer.

Like I said, again, zero conclusive evidence. :)
Darious07 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
First of all, the age of a theory or study does not rule out it's viability simple due to it's age.

Second, identical twins do not actually have identical genes, both contain hundreds if not thousands of genetic mutations that may or may not have subtle changes to their genetic code.

Third, there is a reason that Wikipedia has citation numbers and requires them large or important articles. If you don't trust Wikipedia's statements just click on the citation and check the sources that they are claiming. Ignorance or laziness is not an excuse or a defense.

Fourth, if people do in fact have control over their sexual orientation don't you think someone who is about to face the bigotry and misinformation surrounding homosexuality [some of which you are providing] they would just "choose" to not be gay.

Fifth, This is related to the fourth question and if you don't have an answer to it then is should explain pretty much why sexual orientation is not a choice: what was the exact day you [Drew] woke up and thought "time to pick my sexual orientation"?
SchawrzErzengel Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A big HUG from Costa Rica!
No worries, keep the good work that you do, now that you are realeased form that mask, everything is gonna be better, I'll promise :D
viciousjaws Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
Spoken loud and true. But needs more SUNGLASSES
shaitu Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013   Photographer
a great, touching picture, that shows perfect emotions :)
TheJiggyDC Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
awesome! personal art like this make it more meaningful! great work!
spenxaz Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
Awesome! ^o^
KeeganTheAwesome Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
Very touching (for more ways than one - I'm gay, too), and the guy's face is beyond perfect for the message.

Now, I need to hug you to death. :iconletmehugyouplz:
Niori Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep! I still love you and your awesome work! Keep it up!

From: Person who enjoys your work!
FaithStarLight Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love what you said in your description, and I love this picture :) :hug:
vergil619 Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012
You're one of the greatest artist I have ever had the pleasure of following here on DA, i'm happy to know you care about what your followers thinkand you should know that no matter what we will always support you
mezmereyes0-0 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Hey Daryl I know those feels dude :)
Hiding sucks. Especially when you have the freedom to possibly come out but you're just too scared. I've been living in a home where homosexuality is practically taboo, and being the model daughter doesn't help the fact that I am exactly what my parents hate. I applaud you sir, keep the art and the love going all the way :D
Celsy Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
oh cool! moar hawtness
YohProject Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Student Digital Artist
reed682 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Love it, I don't think I ever did a coming out image, certainly never anything this cute. LOL
jecle Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Student General Artist
Penn92Evans Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
you go man!!!!
Arashi98 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
*favorites* you sir, have earned my respect. :D
Nikki0417 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student General Artist
I had no idea. I'm glad you decided to tell us!! <3
do3om Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Dude, you r awesome. RESPECT.
KIRKparrish Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
regardless of your sexuality, your work is awesome!
Calined Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
iNeyraei Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Never ending respect from me to you, keep it up.
hubadawaha Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like you for your amazing art and because you seem like a really cool person. Anyone who'd treat you any less, or even any different at all just because of your sexuality is missing the point about what makes you so great. I'm proud of you for facing your fears, because that's never an easy thing to do. It gives me yet another thing to like about you, too.
inuto500 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
love this, plain and simple
lucky-eleven Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Never would have known, and still don't care. c:
I love your art no matter what.

C'mere, you! :iconkissingplz: :heart:
Camiixlove Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
love you man! you are great :) :D
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